On the most recent edition of āConversations with the Big Guy,ā hosted by former WWE star Ryback, The Big Guy and co-host Pat Buck run down the top 5 new gimmicks for Rybackās run on the independent scene. Below are some highlights, and you can listen to the full podcast at this link.
Ryback:
5. This is very simple, very effective, it gets the crowd behind you and I feel likeāI look around all the rosters and you know what, I really donāt see anybody else that is doing this right now, and itās the All American Big Guy. USA Singlet, Patriot Mask, All-American Big Guy where you blend in all the greats: Patriot, little bit of Kurt Angle, with the All-American Singlet, just f***n USA! USA! Just f***ng milking it for all its worth. Meet & greets are great; who doesnāt want to meet an All-American Guy?
Pat Buck:
Letās meet in the middle here because one of my #5 on the list, much like we have āSamoa Joe,ā we have āAmerican Rybackā and I donāt know if you thought about theme music because itās part of the package and itās an independent run, but we get a little āEye of the Tigerā playing. You have to exchange your power moves with Karate kicks. Youāre just an American guy that just does American things. You sell $1 Flags, little mini American Flags at the gimmick table. Red, White & Blue glasses, or all three for $2 a piece, and can get all three for $2.95. This is big money. Angle isnāt doing it anymore and I like the mask idea too.
Ryback:
The All-American Big Guy. I think you need to. I have the singlet; we go All-American with the singlet, and then I have the mask as well. I have to reinvent myself, and I have to embrace the All-American Big Guy.
Pat Buck:
4. āHomeless Ryback.ā So hereās the whole persona. The theme music is āFreebirdā by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Something a little sad, Lt. Dan from Forrest Gump. You have a gimp limp. You limp into the ring. Your catchphrase will go from āFeed Me Moreā to āFeed Me Pleaseā and will be a little thinner. I will need you to drop 90lbs. Youāre going to grow out the beard a little bit and Iām thinking you have to grow the hair back. Your singlet will have to have a few rips in it. You can keep it but itās going to have some little holes. One of your boots has to flap a little bit, like when it tears away. The weight belts will be missing a few letters. Every match has to start with a promo how the internet has destroyed you and you are on tough times now. Youāre basically like Randy āThe Ramā but are on tough times. During the match you have to buy drugs from the crowd. You take a couple of photos, get the money. Itāll be like a $100. You buy a bag, helps you get through the matchāBalls Mahoney, RVD style.
Ryback:
I saved my good ones for the top of the list. My #4 I go ahead and lose 50 lbs, I go to Kick pads and Nike: Air Maxās and call myself āFlyback.ā Iām all about the high flying, the dives. Typically when I am at my normal weight Iām 285, 290, Iām at 275 now. So, okay, Iāll have to lose more weight, same as āHomeless Rybackā but withoutāokay, Iām cool. BTW, Iām writing down 90 lbs on my notes now as if this was a real thing. I need to remember this. The big catchphrase for āFlybackā is the no-selling, dive-flying, wheelinā dealin, springboard flinging, backflip dinging son of a gun. That is what āFlybackā is all about. I canāt wait for my #3.
Pat Buck:
My other one, I donāt think you will get upset by this. This was actually a tag-team that was pitched during WrestleMania weekend. I donāt know if it is on your list, but the āIndy Fat Guys.ā
Ryback:
Stu Bennett [Wade Barrett] is very serious about this by the way. Iām all for it too. I think itās money.
Pat Buck:
This will put buzzāplant the seed in peopleās brains where you guys start teaming on independent shows.
Ryback:
Me and Wade on a tag team is money by the way from the whole Nexus deal.
Pat Buck:
Dressed in fat suits with t-shirts and shorts on and the whole thing is that āweāve tried to do things our own way. We want to relate to you independent folks out there; just very sluggish, even though he is just wearing a fat suit.
Ryback:
We donāt do it a lot. We keep it very basic and are the biggest heels in the territories.
Pat Buck:
But youāve agreed to cut the rates as well.
Ryback:
Is it āIndy Fat Boyzā or āFat Guyz?ā
Pat Buck:
Either way it ends with a āZā, thatās the most important part.
Ryback:
The rate, if we did agree to do this, is that the rate eventually will go up, but at first to get people to get it booked, we would cut the rate for the āIndy Fat Boyzā for anybody listening. Stu Bennett and myself aka Wade Barrett, to team as the āIndy Fat Boyz,ā very real thing. The fat suits have been selected. We have done our homework on it. I told him that I donāt know if itās going to work or not, but if you want to book it we will cut the rate for it.
Pat Buck:
But you are not getting out of the suits the entire show?
Ryback:
Nope, we come in, āIndy Fat Boyz.ā Up, strong; we come in and do our shit and move on.Ā My #3 is stepping outside the box [Pat] Buck. I messaged this to you outside as I was thinking about it in the car. This idea came to me on different gimmicks for the āBig Guyā on the independence. This one is really out there everybody, but sometimes you just have to say, F**k it. The āBig Gayā Ryback. āBaby Got Ryback,ā Dicks all over the singlet and catchphrase is āFeed Me Dicks.ā Iām the last guy you want to see be gay because I can forcefully throw my will upon you and you canāt stop me. Iām the āBig Gay.ā You thought Goldust was bad back in the day, you havenāt seen anything yet. Throw myself with anyone and watch what I do. There wonāt be a lot of kids watching, and God dammit itāll be entertaining.
Pat Buck:
I had the same thing for mine and I thought the theme song if Eddie can play, āItās Raining Men,ā more feminists color on the singlet, penises on the singlet I agree. Do you stay bald or do you bring back the old bleached hair?
Ryback:
No, I stay bald for that one.
Pat Buck:
I think youāll need a new finish. It reminded me ofā
Ryback:
I do a Piledriver but I fall back into the ā69ā position and pin myself every match.
Pat Buck:
There was an independent tag team called the āChristopher Street Connectionā in the New York area, but I donāt know if they are gay in real life, but they would do criss-cross spots; the old ādosey-doeā shoot them in the corner, normally babyfaces like clotheslines, or duck something, but they would just make out and the whole crowd would be in shock as they start kissing. I do think though that something here where there hasnāt been a gay character where he is an a** kicker. I know Darren Young came out, but they never embraced that on television; theyāre too scared to be like, hey, Iām a gay dude, and beat the s**t out of someone.
Ryback:
Yeah, itās always been very feminine it feels like. I wonderāitās funny, because back in the day, if you look at old āStone Coldā Steve Austin images; heās wearing like tight jean shorts, his ears are pierced, but when I was a kid I never looked at him like a bad a**, but the way you think about that, like, he had big fān legs where no shorts fit him. Heās a big son of a b**ch, and heās not gay, but that character, imagine him being gay, but still do the same thing. Itās never been done. Iāve always heard rumorsā-we wonāt say any names, but of other wrestlers, big menacing men that areāpossibly, I donāt know, peopleās perceptions are a big thing, but the āBig Gayā you canāt stop him, even if you wanted to, you canāt. Holy s**t, what are we doing on this show?
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Pat Buck:
#2, and Iām going back and forth. I have a couple more, but I think you have one similar; I call him, āAmerican-Indian Ryback.ā So, you think, when you hear this name that heās Native-American. Youāre a proud American, but because of all this stuff with Indian culture; that heat magnet they put on you, you fully embrace and go full throttle and become an Indian citizen. I believe you go back to trunks. You have to get thinner again, but youāre going to have to look more like Dhalsim from Street Fighter. You have to bear foot, and have to bleach your beard, but not blonde, but full white. You will have to have this leathery, have a real tan from the sun, strong bronze tan, white beard and that is what I have.
Ryback:
So, my #2 is the exact same thing, but Iām going to go more in-debt with this, but before I say my name and what I have, but this past week, and for everybody out there, we talked about the comments on this podcast that Pat and I did, with WWE merchandise not doing well in India. I said it in a joking; it was never meant to be taken serious, but we talked about it more in debt than what was quoted online by a lot of places I believe where I said, well no s*it, people in India donāt have money, and then we elaborated on that further where they are really poor or really rich, there is no middle class over there. Iāve been there plenty of times, we said it on the podcast that I am very sympathetic on that situation. This podcast is meant for entertainment purposes only, to get people to laugh and forget about life while they listen to this podcast, but there are people out there that make me want to look bad and want to report things. What happened is that a lot of the online Reporters took a portion, or a small portion of what I said and didnāt get the entire conversation, so unless you listen to the podcast you donāt know any different, and they tried to paint me in a negative light. I Tweeted this past week that I love India and love their culture and the people there. If you YouTube Ryback in India and see the thousands of peopleāit was a great experience, and been there multiple times, itās like God dammit guys, quit trying to f***ing look for things that arenāt there.
Recently, this past week Ryan Satināthat Reporter guy. I wish these guys didnāt report on this, I wish they would get real jobs. I feel that it is not a real job, itās not. Itās like guys, go do something that really makes the world better, but they do it. They love wrestling and they feel like they want to make money on it, so they report on these peopleās lives. If you are going to report on peopleās lives do your homework, right? That is the truth on this situation. Recently there was an interview with Alberto Del Rio, and that interview was from a wrestling site that asked the questionāthey completely misquoted and came up with whatever they wanted to come up with and said that I said it to him.
Pat Buck:
You can take anything out of anything, like a sentence out of context and switch it around completely.
Ryback:
Yeah, you have to get the full thing and these places donāt do that. They take a little thing, make a headline click-bait out of it and they try to get clicks. That is all they do, and that is what I want to raise awareness with people; itās not just with me, itās with everybody. This s**t is happening left and right, so anyways, Alberto was asked something that I never said. He was very positive towards me; he mentioned that it was a stupid comment, and it was. If I had said that it was a stupid comment, but it doesnāt bother me because I never said that. What bothers me is that other places take this quote and then regurgitate it and try to change it up. So anyways, that Ryan Satin guy came up with something that Ryback retracts his statements about India, saying that he loves Indian people and their culture. I had to contact this guy and find him because one of my fans had to send it over to me from Twitter and I said, what are you talking about? I never retracted anything. I said that I like India and liked Indian people on my podcast weeks ago. I was referencing a misquote that was since taken off and changed. I asked what he was talking about? He does that; he puts the old quote, which he didnāt do his homework on by not listening to my podcast, which wasnāt the entire quote to begin with, and he ends it with, Iām not sure what part was misinterpreted about it. The guy is completely f***ing wrong in what he reported to begin with. Iām sure heās not a bad guy, but itās like these guys report s**t, they donāt realize that they hurt your brand and your image when they donāt f***ng do your homework. Itās like, guys, be better than that. Donāt report s**t unless you know it is a fact. Do you know how it is a fact? Go back and listen to the podcast and listen to the entire thing and make your judgement on it before you go to a f**ing dirt sheet headline and say that you are going to go off on that. It really bothers me. With that said, in good spirits about this whole thing, I believe that the character needs to be called, āRybu.ā Itās a man that represents India. Itās not āFeed Me More,ā Itās āFeed Them More.ā Itās not about me anymore, and all people on Indian descent, if you are from India, you get free āFeed Me Moreā Nutrition for life. āRybuā is about being an Indian-Patriarch, and I want to make this right, and āRybu,ā starting riots.Ā This is fun. I like it. I want your #1, because I know your #1 isnāt mine. The one that I can legit pull off on #1, as I believe itāll be #1 on the polls and I believe thatāll win.
Pat Buck:
Really? I donāt know.
Ryback:
I can 100% pull it off and make it my own. Itās been done numerous times. Itās been a main event character numerous times.
Pat Buck:
My #1, there was massive rumors about your MMA stuff, or Bellator stuff, this one trumps it all. Mind you, we are independent wrestling, but this is where it starts; the name is āButterback.ā So, this is what we are going to do. We are going book Butterbean for a few appearances. So, the way āButterbackā would work is that we would book Butterbean for Wrestle-Pro, and you would take him on, and this would be your investment. You would beat him with one punch; and after the match he would give you his trunks and then announces that you are new Tough Man, and you transform to āButterback.ā Heās passing the torch. He has another pair made for you. So, you are clean shaven now, no beard. You have to stop working out and then we just start having boxing matches on independent wrestling shows and be 450lbs. He was 425lbs. Rates go down, but people come in record numbers to see Ryback let himself go. The food is included, but the rate goes down. I think there is longevity to this and looking forward to the āButterbackā run.
Ryback:
Outside of the Big Gay and Rybu, I can make all these work, but Homeless Ryback would be a lot of fun. Homeless Ryback, I wasnāt thinking about that. The photo ops and buying drugs during the match, alright, #1 for me, and I think I can pull this off, I know I can make this work, but Big Daddy Ryback.ā Grow my hair out just short length. Bleach my hair and beard; essentially do Superstar Billy Graham and Hulk Hogan, Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner where I am passed the torch from those characters. I grow my hair out still pretty good. As you know I was a big fan of all of them growing up. Maybe I hop on a little gas, especially since I am not drug tested and say f*** it, and go against everything I believe in. āThe Big Guy Ryback is on the Attack. Feed me if you need me.ā That is the catchphrase.
Pat Buck:
I think you need Phoenix Marie to come out with you.
Ryback:
Coming out with pornstar Phoenix Marie would be a little edgy. I would come out in biker shorts and airbrush an image of me on my a**, and Phoenix Marie; me and Cody Rhodes have discussed having her come on the road with me where she sells my Big Guy tea booster, testosterone booster at the gimmick table for me. We do our rates together, in which, I canāt remember in detail, but we had a long car ride in Europe talking about this gimmick. Whenever she picks up the microphone, she puts it in her mouth and I have to pull it back a little bit, but she holds it upside down a little bit and doesnāt realize it needs to be upside down. There could be legs behind that gimmick. I texted her over that before and she said she would 100% do wrestling appearances with me.
Pat Buck:
Iām a big fan of passing the torch. Do you think Scott Steiner would, as a Manager, as an added attractionā¦
Ryback:
I donāt think thatāll work. When was the last time that worked? I canāt remember one time that it has gotten over. I think maybe for a show thatās a deal, but not in a package deal. Big Daddy Ryback, āFeed me, if you need me.ā
